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Reverend Dr. Michael Waters, founder and senior pastor of Joy Tabernacle AME Chuch in Dallas, Texas, is also a professor, author, community activist, and social commentator. He talks to Erica Campbell and GRIFF about his work in the Dallas community after the tragedy of the police shootings occurred in July. He talks about his role in the community’s healing process as a church leader.

He discusses his belief that the church should be at the forefront of change. He says a church she aim get beyond its walls, and connect with people everyday. Plus, he gives a message of encouragement for anyone who may need to hear it. Click on the audio player to hear more in this exclusive interview on “Get Up! Mornings With Erica Campbell.”

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