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Pastor Marvin Winans opens up about the journey has had growing his church in Detroit, Michigan from 8 people 27 years ago, to the full and bustling congregation he has now. He also talks about about the election and his church’s role in being a voice in opposition to the hatred and chaos that has been flying around.

Plus, he discusses why he thinks it’s impossible for a person of good mind to vote for Donald Trump.  Click on the audio player to hear more in this exclusive interview from “Get Up! Mornings With Eric Campbell.

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