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Pastor Hart Ramsey, who is also a multi-talented composer, musician, author and bible teacher, chatted with Erica Campbell and GRIFF, about his new album, “True Story.” He talks about some of the challenges of being a pastor and a musician, and how he even started doing music in the first place.

Plus, Pastor Hart shares the wisdom he gave his congregation in the midst of hurt, anger and confusion after Donald Trump‘s win of the election, and the challenge the Christians must rise to now. Click on the audio player to hear more in this exclusive interview from “Get Up! Mornings With Erica Campbell.”

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